Sean Smith wrote:
>
> On Wed 23 Jul, John Erickson wrote:
> > Chris,
> > Good point about the numbers, but what if you compared the numbers
> > for just one battle. I mean one day of one battle. How many men were one
> > the same battlefield on the same day. I figure since you have these stats
> > handy maybe you can look up some others...;)
> > John
> > ----> Felt the need to throw some stats out:
> > (this is from the U.S. Army's center for historical research
> > http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/default.htm)
> >
> > BRANCH OF NUMBER BATTLE OTHER WOUNDS
> > SERVICE SERVING DEATHS DEATHS NOT MORTAL
> >
> > CIVIL WAR (UNION FORCES ONLY)
> > 1861-1865
> > TOTAL 2,213,363 140,414 224,097 281,881
> >
> > ARMY 2,128,948 D/ 138,154 221,374 280,040
> > NAVY - 2,112 2,411 1,710
> > MARINES 84,415 148 312 131
> >
> > WORLD WAR I
> > 1917-1918
> > TOTAL 4,734,991 53,402 63,114 204,002
> >
> > ARMY 4,057,101 50,510 55,868 19,366
> > NAVY 599,051 431 6,856 819
> > MARINES 78,839 2,461 390 9,520
> >
> > WORLD WAR II
> > 1941-1946
> > TOTAL 16,112,566 291,557 113,842 671,846
> > ARMY 11,260,000 234,874 83,400 565,861
> > NAVY 4,183,466 36,950 25,664 37,778
> > MARINES 669,100 19,733 4,778 68,207
> >
> > >From this, you might conclude that a million points shouldn't
> > mean squat to the imperium, orks, squats, etc. Remember
> > that this is the U.S ONLY, and that even in WW2 the population
> > of the U.S. was far less than it is today. An entire world can
> > generate a staggering number of troops. War Machines would
> > be less common, but still the "thousand gun" infantry barrage
> > was a reality on the WW2 Russian front. You want epic...
> > Most of our battles, even in epic, are skirmishes. That
> > 10,000 point batle I did several years back was hard to do
> > even with three people per side. Now imagine a _Real_
> > Imperial guard offensive. Infantry, tanks, artillery - marines would
> > not even be a drop in the bucket on this scale, so when
> > mixing them, think of them as elite special forces/commandos
> > /stiffening troops. I can see titans being concentrated
> > into groups within a few mile front, and used to break through
> > >enemy lines like tanks were in our real wars.
> > I think with some historical numbers, maybe a new
> > perspective on what is "realistic" and "likely" can be gained. Even with
> > 1000 chapters of 1000 marines, that's 1 million marines total. Not much
> > to cover a whole galaxy. They're the rapid reaction force, kinda like
> > marines today (and airborne and the other rangers). It's the IG and
> > the TL's who fight the meat grinder wars and defend whole planets.
> > Orks, 'Nids, Chaos -there's a lot of 'em out there.
> > Let me know if you get anything out of this...
> >
> > Chris Miller
> >
> >
> >
>
> What I would be interested in doing, if I had the time, is to
> inventing rules for a game of epic on a much larger scale. So
> that I could play games were the battle represented 100 titans,
> thousands of IG and marines etc. Of course the figures would
> have to be considerably smaller.
>
> This is however only a dream while I am doing masters.
> --
>
> Sean Smith
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Sauron1 writes;Sean If you could make it fromNZ to my clubs con in August
this year you could play in one of my Epic2nd games with at least 20
Titans and 240 stands of marines as I run Wars of the Horus Heresy!
sauron1
Received on Wed Jul 23 1997 - 19:32:13 UTC