Re: [Epic] -Chaos- Tactic Critique

From: Mark A Shieh <SHODAN+_at_...>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 16:09:14 -0400 (EDT)

Scott Shupe <shupes_at_...> writes:
> Miller, Chris wrote:
> > That said, let me open this up:
> > Is a LOB as good as a reaver? Same points (for 1). Reaver
> > has more weapons & options and a better CAF. LOB gets 3
> > cards which can save if his armor is penetrated. Reaver gets
> > 4 shields which save before armor is hit, and can be regenerated
> > >on a 5-6 at the end of every turn. Movement is the same.

> > If a LOB dies, his followers are vulnerable to morale checks.
> > If the Reaver dies it just blows up.

        Oh, come on. That's because you've taken mortal followers in
a Chaos army, not because it's a LoB. The only time mortal troops get
out of this one is if they're taken under a Marine Company, IIRC.
That's hardly the fault of the LoB.

> > So how is the LOB better?
>
> I don't recall ever saying the the LoB *was* better...
[snip]
> I'd have to say the Reaver is better (better weapons,
> very flexible in its battlefield role), but the LoB is more
> fun.

        Nope, I heard lots of comments that the LoB was better than a
Bloodthirster or Angron, but that's not real hard. Also, in the
pre-TL days, the LoB was nice because it allowed you 3-5 minion cards,
unlike the Reaver, which ate up one of those slots. Taking a LoB
opens up a few options on how you can field an army, while the lone
Reaver just eats up support.

> > As someone else mentioned, maybe we'll get some
> > legion-specific and primarch specific rules, but from the 40K
> > chaos book, we already have the marines - berserkers, noise marines,
> > and thousand sons. The only thing missing are plague marines,
> > and all they got for 40K was a +1 toughness and a nasty knife.
> > "Assault" anyone?
>
> I figure Plague Marines are not sufficiently
> different than normal chaos marines to warrant a different
> entry in the army list. 'Assault' really wouldn't work
> for them, since they only come with 1 assault weapon (the
> knife and no bolt pistol, whereas normal marines come with
> a bolt pistol) and they have no option to get more.

        Yup, and if they got a 6+ save I'd have to hurt somebody at
GW.

Mark
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