I am with you 100% on that. I have had quite a few conversations with
Jervis, originally about the price of the GW sprues which he then agreed to
drop quite surprisingly to �1.50 from �10.
He does negotiate but we need to present well reasoned arguments to him, not
rant and rave.
Tom.
-----Original Message-----
From: tzeentch666 [mailto:tzeentch666_at_...]
Sent: 09 February 2002 22:35
To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NetEpic ML] Regarding Epic40K- Armageddon Playtest
> Now these are some questions for a our list members:
>
> 1. Should this group get involved with this project?
> 2. How should we forward any feedback? As a group? Individually?
>
> Of course this will all depend how real is the "contribution from
players is". For now its watch and wait, but I'd apprecaite views on
all this.
* Before you get crazy Peter I think you should known that Jervis
*IS* a reasonable guy who loves his games. Immediately attacking his
new project is not going to help at all. He's already got approval
from GW to run with this ball - which means their marketing
department has probably already looked over and approved his plans. I
doubt you could seriously reengineer the basic plan that he posted
simply because GW management wouldn't let him.
* That being said, NetEpic is one of the largest and most active (if
not THE most active) Epic group on the internet. We represent over
*300* dedicated players of the game - we're not a good market sample
but we do represent some of the most core fanatic players who get
other people interested and can spread the word.
* I sincerely believe this group NEEDS to get in on the ground floor
for this playtest and submit comments as a group (we can include
alternate opinions from group members that dislike the majority). We
need to set up ground rules such as NO BASHING GAMES WORKSHOP -
that's the quickest way to relegate us to Mr. McCann and his shredder
machine when we send more comments in.
* Because we represent such a large group of active players our
comments will have significant value. We have numbers on our side -
which also means we can work as a juggernaut in getting changes we
want made. This probably doesn't mean we can say "We want you to use
Heresy!" but we can shape the game into something worth playing on
its own and not just make it successful so we can get new minis ;)
* If the NetEpic group is interested we can draft an email to Jervis
regarding the NetEpic groups willingness to participate in the
playtest as a whole - making sure to mention the progress made to
date (a rough wordount is useful here) and our willingness not to
request the game be made into Space Marine ;) We have so many players
we can also note that we can form dedicated study groups for certain
armies (chaos, eldar, etc). Working as a single block (rather then a
swarm of individuals) is probably preferrable to Jervis simply for
logistical reasons. We can also keep the "Jerv1s! Y00 AND Epik40K
SUXX0R3Z!" comments to a minimum by filtering it through the group.
* This is probably the BEST (and if things tank - the LAST) chance
the netEpic community has on seriously affecting the development of a
new Epic version that will hit print. I say put aside any disgust for
the original E40K (which never got me excited either) and help the
guy who helped make the game in the first place. The final product
won't be perfect (it's going to be the ultimate "game by comittee")
but we're not looking for perfection and should not expect it.
Kenneth Peters
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Received on Sun Feb 10 2002 - 15:45:00 UTC