My point is that compared to titans, Praetorians are cheap :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eivind Borgeteien [mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...]
> Sent: 31. mai 2001 19:03
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] unballanced armies
>
>
> Yepp, and then you will find that the collossus is the most excpensive
> praetorian in the game. Capitol Imperialis is the only one
> more expecive.
>
> Eivind
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karlsen Rune" <rune.karlsen_at_...>
> To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 12:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] unballanced armies
>
>
> > The point here, as i see it, is that we have to compare
> > them to other titans/praetorians which are special cards.
> >
> > Rune
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nils.saugen_at_... [mailto:nils.saugen@...]
> > > Sent: 31. mai 2001 11:06
> > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] unballanced armies
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you compare them to for instance Necron Stalkers, they
> are a true
> > > bargain....!
> > >
> > > However, you might not want to doo this with all the
> > > Praetorians. If one
> > > should decide to change this I thing one should give each
> > > type a thorough
> > > evaluation. Not just up the prices by 1/3. I do feel that for
> > > instance the
> > > Leviathan is quite fairly priced, we must also remeber that
> > > these units are
> > > special cards!!! So if we should decide to up the prices, I
> > > dont think we
> > > should increase them by more than a 100 - 150 points.
> > >
> > > Nils.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karlsen Rune [mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...]
> > > Sent: 31. mai 2001 10:10
> > > To: 'netepic_at_yahoogroups.com'
> > > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] unballanced armies
> > >
> > >
> > > I too have been amazed at how little the Squats have to
> pay for their
> > > Praetorians.
> > > They can outshoot anything short of an Eldar titan armed with
> > > pulslasers,
> > > but
> > > are 5 times more resilient. 650-750 sounds much more
> reasonable to me.
> > >
> > > Rune
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> > > Sent: 31. mai 2001 01:04
> > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] unballanced armies
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Hmmm.. very interesting points, you should have pointed that
> > > out during the
> > > revision, we could have up the cost. I see the merit in what
> > > you say, they
> > > are pretty more resilient know with templates, especially
> > > since vortex and
> > > other one-shot kills are now expensive, makes preatorians
> > > pretty nasty.
> > >
> > > What say others in this regard? I think the points cost Ryan
> > > states are on
> > > the money too, opinions?
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Ryan Lawson wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Damn thats expensive! The original idea was to make
> preatorians worth
> > > their points by giving them templates, is templates and
> their original
> > > cost too good? I'd like to hear comments on this, since its a very
> > > interesting point.
> > >
> > >
> > > Squat praetorians have a LOT of firepower. They have better
> > > firepower than
> > > titans. They also have the FF and move ability which is
> also extremely
> > > valuable.
> > >
> > > In the old rules, the Colossus and Cyclops were pointed
> > > properly with regard
> > > to most everything.....but vortex missiles, warp missiles,
> > > gutbusters and a
> > > handful of other shield ignoring weapons skewed their value
> > > way too much.
> > >
> > > Adding hit locations to them made them withstand those
> one-shot kill
> > > weapons, but it also made them much more resilient against
> > > regular weapons
> > > and units. We found that they were too powerful with hit
> > > locations without
> > > an additional increase in points. The points I pay right now
> > > are little high
> > > probably, I figured it was better to overpay for them than
> > > underpay. Now
> > > that we have fielded them a few times as they are, I think
> > > 700 is more in
> > > line for a Colossus and 650 for a Cyclops. They take hits
> better than
> > > titans, have excelle!
> > >
> > > !
> > >
> > > nt firepower....but they have no weapon options and
> > > their maneuverability is nonexistent.
> > >
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