RE: [Epic] -Chaos- Tactic Critique

From: Miller, Chris <CMiller_at_...>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:53:31 -0500

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>> If you want a specific situation, say I have 800 pts to
>>spend.
>> I can take a LOB and 300 pts, or a Reaver and 300 pts of support
>> cards for open slots on GD's I already have.
>
> I think we're going to have to disagree on this con/lack of
>con. In my past experience, this situation isn't going to happen when
>our group creates forces. It's more like, I have 1000 points to
>spend. I can buy:
>
>1) A GD, A Reaver titan, and 2+ support cards that break when the GD
>dies.
>2) A LoB, no Reaver Titan, and 3+ support cards that break when the
>LoB dies.
>
>(Or I can buy demons in either case)
>
> When viewed this way, I don't consider the support cards
>breaking something that weakens the LoB. If anything, it strengthens
>them as the LoB tends to either outlive the GD, or the GD is cowering
>in a forest and not contributing but costing me 300 points as a
>placeholder for the minion card slots.

------> OK, maybe my example was bad. I threw out a very narrow
question,
 originally, and Scott responded:For 500 pts, which is better:

        A Reaver (fine, call it a minion card added to another GD)

        The LOB (and reshuffle your minions to give it 3 minimum)

Once again, you keep comparing the LOB to other GD's, and if that's
the discussion, fine, but it's not where we started. My interest was in
most effective use of points, not given 1000 points what force would
you pick (that was an earlier question)

(BTW: we both decided that the Reaver was more effective in game terms
but the LOB was just more fun)
>
>> ----> The followers are cetainly affected by it, but only if the LOB
>> dies,
>> so you can't just say "it's the followers fault". It's a
>>disadvantage
>> when comparing the LOB to a reaver titan - not huge, but
>> something to think about. We've been comparing 2 units for
>> Chaos with the same points cost.
>
> But *all* company cards in the Chaos army have that
>disadvantage, and you can't field anything without taking them. So to
>me, it's a LoB instead of a Bloodthirster, since I have to take one
>anyways. I'm don't have any weaknesses that I didn't have before I
>added the LoB. (Keep in mind that I play mostly Khorne, so I'm going
>to have a Khornate GD no matter what)

Mark

-----> Yes. All GD's have this attribute. Reavers do not. Thus it is a
Difference between these two units, which are the only ones being
compared.
Other GD's and Bloodthirsters are not up for review here. We're assuming
you've already chosen X points of other Chaos stuff, so you have room
to arrange the minions no matter which of the 2 units (reaver & LOB) you
choose. For you, it may well be "...a LOB instead of a Bloodthirster..."
(probably is for me too) but the question was LOB vs Reaver, not
"what's the best Khorne Daemon."

>Chris Miller
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Received on Wed Jul 30 1997 - 15:53:31 UTC