Re: [Epic] Who is the elusive Sauron1?

From: Bill Provick <bprovick_at_...>
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 14:11:55 -0400

At 09:34 PM 8/4/97 +0100, you wrote:
>I'm Navy also - Royal Navy, the best in the world (if we had some decent
>ships!!) and hold the rank of Petty Officer with 15 years service - hope to
>go for Chief's in next few months :)
>
>I agree with your comments about guiding junior officers, I do it all the
>time, my immediate superior is a Lt. and he is always asks me what he
>should do. Of course i say "well, if I were you, I would do this, this,
>this and this".

Unfortunatly, doing this doesn't help his problem, but it gets him off your
back right? :)

>BTW, I'm a weapons specialist (not SAS but close enough) and as a team we
>always have our separate input into a problem but the overall decision is
>left to the OIC (with a wee bit of help and nudging from me!)
>
>Harlequin Master
>
>"We leap, we dance, we bring DEATH!!"
>
>
>----------
>> From: Philip Troy Routley <ptr320_at_...>
>> To: space-marine_at_...
>> Subject: Re: [Epic] Who is the elusive Sauron1?
>> Date: 04 August 1997 09:15
>>
>> Well, I'm navy myself, so I don't know to much about attitudes of RSM's.
>> Shipboard, however, it isn't terribly uncommon for senior NCO's to
>correct
>> junior officers when they do something stupid relating to the NCO's part
>> ship - assuming the captain doesn't notice and do it himself of course.
>> It's part of the 'unwritten' job of a senior NCO to use his experience to
>> 'guide' the junior officers who, while technically outranking the NCO due
>> to their commission, lack the years of experience the NCO has. The good
>> officers of course consult their specialists (the NCO's) and thus don't
>> make the mistake in the first place.
>>
>> Troy
>> <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2
color="#000000" face="Arial">I'm Navy also - Royal Navy, the best in the
world (if we had some decent ships!!) and hold the rank of Petty Officer
with 15 years service - hope to go for Chief's in next few months
:)<br><br>I agree with your comments about guiding junior officers, I do it
all the time, my immediate superior is a Lt. and he is always asks me what
he should do. Of course i say "well, if I were you, I would do this,
this, this and this".<br><br>BTW, I'm a weapons specialist (not SAS but
close enough) and as a team we always have our separate input into a problem
but the overall decision is left to the OIC (with a wee bit of help and
nudging from me!)<br><br>Harlequin Master<br><br>"We leap, we dance, we
bring DEATH!!"<br><br><br>----------<br>> From: Philip Troy Routley
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Subject: Re: [Epic] Who is the elusive Sauron1?<br>> Date: 04 August 1997
09:15<br>> <br>> Well, I'm navy myself, so I don't know to much about
attitudes of RSM's.<br>> Shipboard, however, it isn't terribly uncommon
for senior NCO's to correct<br>> junior officers when they do something
stupid relating to the NCO's part<br>> ship - assuming the captain
doesn't notice and do it himself of course.<br>> It's part of the
'unwritten' job of a senior NCO to use his experience to<br>> 'guide' the
junior officers who, while technically outranking the NCO due<br>> to
their commission, lack the years of experience the NCO has.  The
good<br>> officers of course consult their specialists (the NCO's) and
thus don't<br>> make the mistake in the first place.<br>> <br>>
Troy<br>> </p>
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