Re: [Epic] War Engine BM suggestion

From: Scott Shupe <shupes_at_...>
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 12:15:51 -0500

Carl Billen wrote:
>
> Scott wrote :
> > Good one. But why base it off of point values? Or rather,
> >what kind of numbers do you get if you base it off of DC instead (so
> >that a WE's ability to ignore BMs is related to its size & toughness)?
> >Perhaps DC/2, or two-thirds of DC, or something like that (don't have
> >my books handy). Could go a long way to making the Tyranid titans
> >look worthwhile.
>
> Ok, let's look at the values when the 'BM Ignorance Number' would equal DC/2:
>
> Imperator : 12 Yuk !
> Warlord : 6
> Leviathan, Adeptus Titanicus Ordinatus, Reaver : 4
> Shadowsword/Baneblade, Warhound : 2
> Mega Gargant : 12 Also Yuk !
> Great Gargant : 9
> Gargant : 6
> Battle Fortress : 2
> Phantom : 4
> Revenant, Scorpion, Cobra : 2
> Plague Tower, Lord Of Battles : 4
> Subjugator, Questor : 2
> Dominatrix : 5
> Hierodule : 6
> Hierophant : 9
>
> This would result in almost no change for the Imperial Troops (except for
> the Imperator and the Ordinatus), no change for the Eldar, the Orks can soak
> considerably more BMs (Great Gargants and Mega Gargants can eat BMs for
> breakfast), Chaos has a slightly better Plague Tower and Lord of Battles,
> and the 'Nids have better HieroBeasties, but the Dominatrix stays the same.
>
> The question is, would the value be based on the starting DC, or the current
> DC ?

        Current DC is a good idea, but you're right; it's too
much to think about during the game.

        OK, I think I've got a good formula here: (DC/4)+1.
That scales back the numbers considerably while still giving a
'toughness' rating of 2 to the smallest WEs. Here's the line
up, small to large:

> Shadowsword/Baneblade, Warhound : 2
> Battle Fortress : 2
> Revenant, Scorpion, Cobra : 2
> Subjugator, Questor : 2
> Leviathan, Adeptus Titanicus Ordinatus,
> Reaver : 3
> Phantom : 3
> Plague Tower, Lord Of Battles 3
> Dominatrix : 3*
> Hierodule : 3
> Warlord : 4
> Gargant : 4
> Great Gargant : 5*
> Hierophant : 5*
> Imperator : 7
> Mega Gargant : 7

* rounded down

        Looks much more reasonable to be, although the '7'
for Imps and Megas might be a bit extreme.... Hmmm, I'll
have to playtest this the next time I play (whenever the
heck that might be).

        Of course, while this approach makes the Reaver
armed with 3 volcano cannons a viable option, the problem
is that FP-based weaponry on WEs becomes much stronger
than it was previously. I guess the solution to that is
to keep your troops out of FP-range for the enemy's WEs...
which would generally be a good idea anyway.

Scott Shupe
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