Re: [Epic] Warhammer 40K

From: Thane Morgan <thane_at_...>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:12:09 -0600

I was going to stay out of this, but I can't resist.

WH40K is ok, but not great or even good. It's biggest advantage is that you can
always find a game on the weekend. For that reason, I bought a decent bug army
at 1/2 price when a local game store closed. I started painting 3 TW's about 4
months ago; one day I'll finish.

WH40k seems to be a "shoot-out at the OK Corrale" game. Most players line up
their armies, then one side shots, then the other, then the other, then the
other, until turn 4 where everyone rushes to achieve their "mission". It has
seemed really stupid the 4 times I've played. One of them ended with the chaos
player winning because he rushed his chaos marines to a certain point in the
center of the table on the last move of the game, gaining extra vp. Never mind
that this point was 3 inches in front of 1 leman russ and 12 inches from a
second leman russ, out in the open. Because of the turn order, the Russ's never
got to fire at the marines.

People have told me that some players will try to fight tactical battles, but
the way the victory conditions and turn sequence works it is very difficult. The
rules need to be rewritten to match the movement/firing sequence of epic; one
side moves, the second side moves, the players alternate firing. The set game
length needs to be chucked as well.

Within these limitations it is a pleasant diversion, but nothing special.

Warzone was a more tactical game, but they messed up the point values on the
units too much, and made the evil armies absurdly undercosted/overpowered. The
vehicle rules sucked for it as well; for some reason they were afraid to make
armor impenetrable to small arms fire. I hope they re-release the rules for it
soon.

Thane

Matthew Sprange wrote:

> >> One of my epic buddies has suggested that since we (our gaming group)
> have
> >> been the only epic players we have spotted in a year of two conventions
> and
> >> 26 gaming meetings, it would just about be time we moved up in scale to
> >> Warhammer 40K.
> >>
> >> How do other epic players find WH40K?
> >
> >I don't. I avoid it.
>
> I think you are all being a bit harsh here ;) We stopped playing with Epic
> a little over a year ago, always with the intention of going back, but aside
> from building up our ever swelling armies we have had little to do with 6mm
> scale. We started 40k with the intention of having small armies so we could
> do combined campaigns of the two games, but I am now the proud owner of a
> 12000+ point Dark Angels army, 1000+ points of Necrons and 3000+ points of
> Eldar (including two Titans), with no signs of slowing. My Tyranid player
> seems to be trying to match his Epic forces, he has nearly 100 Genestealers!
>
> The game itself is not slow, it is quite well detailed, there are some few
> flaws and mis-interpretations in the rules, but so long as you find yourself
> with agreeable players and get everything sorted before you begin rolling
> dice, you will find it works out fine. In this respect it is similar to
> Space Marine and Titan Legions.
>
> In the ideal world I would be playing both games regularly, but time and
> work puts paid to that.
>
> If you want any more help, mail me privately.
>
> Matthew Sprange, Commander of the Dark Angels (Loyalist Division), Farseer
> of the Altsain Craftworld, Abbotess(?) of the Sacred Order of the Argent
> Shroud and part-time Necron Lord.
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