Re: [NetEpic ML] [5.0]Chaos army list

From: Albert Farr� Benet <cibernyam_at_...>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:12:37 +0100

This division is OK, but what units do you have in mind for "common units" available for all Chaos forces?

On the other hand, Perhaps dividing the Chaos army in the 4 powers may result in a good split too. Applying both could be too much but I think this posibility should be taken into account.

Albert
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Peter Ramos
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  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:58 PM
  Subject: [NetEpic ML] [5.0]Chaos army list


  Hi!

   

  We can now consider the imperial forces a done deal and I ask Jar to finalize whatever he needs to from those corresponding books.

   

  On to chaos!

   

  Out all the army lists this one needs the most "clarification". Before diving into the army lists proper some discussions on the nature of the lists themselves needs to be done.

   

  For many years it has been pointed out to me that the chaos lists are "unbalanced". For those years I was mostly of the opinion that it was player inexperience that produced those complaints. That was until one game I had with Darius when I lived in Philadelphia. I played my typical force of chaos space marines backed up by demons and won easily. Too easily in my opinion. Darius is a veteran player so "inexperience" was not the answer. Then it dawned on me what the problem was and as usual it was staring me in the face all these years.

   

  It's not a problem of the units themselves or the army being too powerful. The problem is that chaos has too GOOD a selection of troops. We have always known that playing a combined Imperial force makes a powerful combination since you can get the best troops (SM) and the best tanks/artillery (IG). Net Epic enforces "pure" armies since this guarantees the best balance available. Allies are by CONSENT only. However the chaos list violates this since we can choose between chaos space marine equipment, demon engines, demons themselves and some IG cultist equipment. The chaos lists have evolved to exactly what we don't permit in any other army list.

   

  The fix, of course, is obvious. The list MUST be divided in order to provide balance to it since, as it stands, it is unbalanced. I recommend it be broken in to the following parts that form ONE book (akin to armies of the Imperium):

   

  Chaos space marines: This is the most obvious division. In effect the army will be similar in strengths and weaknesses to the standard SM army. We will define what "Imperial" equipment is available to them and leave it at that. The CSM legion card will become a company card as per standard rules and this will eliminate those annoying confusions over how to attach those cards. In effect the center of a chaos space marine army will be the Legion, its primarch or a greater demon. All other rules remain as usual.

   

  Cultists: This will mainly be a PDF style army with all their limitations (they are not supposed to be as good as IG), led by demons.

   

  Demonic hordes: These demon heavy armies with fantastical beasts (like minotaurs and such) and demon engines.

   

  We can also designate if desired, some common units used by any branch of chaos.

   

  I await some opinions and discussion before entering the list itself.

   

  Peter


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